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T.I. Vs Tip
T.I. Vs Tip
Genres: Pop, Rap & Hip-Hop
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T.I. may take alter-egotism to new heights on T.I. vs. T.I.P., an album that's essentially a spinoff of a song (Trap Muzik's psychologically charged "T.I. vs. T.I.P."), but few artists have been known to spin something so ...  more »


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All Artists: T.i.
Title: T.I. Vs Tip
Members Wishing: 0
Total Copies: 1
Label: Atlantic / Wea
Original Release Date: 1/1/2007
Re-Release Date: 7/3/2007
Genres: Pop, Rap & Hip-Hop
Styles: Gangsta & Hardcore, Southern Rap, Pop Rap
Number of Discs: 1
SwapaCD Credits: 1
UPC: 075678998218

T.I. may take alter-egotism to new heights on T.I. vs. T.I.P., an album that's essentially a spinoff of a song (Trap Muzik's psychologically charged "T.I. vs. T.I.P."), but few artists have been known to spin something so compelling out of a concept so silly. T.I.P. is the hoodie-wearing hustler we get to know in the first part of this exceptionally long disc--he curses and boasts behind the beats with a lazy bravado that manages to be both slouchy and sharp (check out "Da Dopeman," "Watch What You Say" featuring a fired-up Jay-Z, and "You Know What It is," with Wyclef), and T.I. is the right-minded tycoon-type who takes over for a while in act two. As smooth an operator as T.I. is--"Show It to Me," featuring Nelly, finds its groove and never lets up--he's more compelling in the grittier parts of the disc, including a four-song final act in which the two halves of his deeply divided personality square off. "Respect This Hustle," the M.C. commands on the next-to-last track; detractors will try not to, citing the slightness of his concept. T.I. is at the top of his game, though, and he makes it heard. --Tammy La Gorce

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Say Hello to the Man Who Can Save Hip-Hop.
Pablo | 07/03/2007
(5 out of 5 stars)

"To say that T.I. Vs. T.I.P. was my most anticipated album this year would be an understatement. Of all the emcees currently in the game, T.I. is my personal favorite. Do I think he's the best? No. That'd be ignorant to say that Tip, no matter how great of an artist I think he is, is the best in the game. So, when this album finally became available on Sunday night, I most certainly marked like a muh**** and got it immediately.

Now, honestly, despite how anxiously I awaited this LP, the truth is, I didn't expect T.I. to exceed King. King was an amazing, and honestly, rather surprising album from Tip; the defining moment of his career, imo. To expect T.I. to top that effort would be inane, and expecting him to follow the same formula for a follow-up would be setting yourself up for disappointment. This album is its own entity; and that's really all I wanted from Mr. Harris.

Act I is the intro to this album, and also the T.I.P. segment. Act I, II, and III all sport the same beat, which is a monster onto itself. Just a shame it wasn't used for a full length track. The first full song on the album is the LP's first single, Big Things Poppin'. While Big Things Poppin' felt like an underwhelming single at first, it has grown on me significantly since its release a few months ago. I know a lotta peeps are saying it's a Top Back clone, but I don't see any resemblance other than Tip rhyming over a Mannie beat. Following that is the appropriately titled Raw, in which T.I. claims that as long as he's alive, other emcees are gonna have to settle for second place. The fourth track is the second single from the album, You Know What It Is, featuring Wyclef. Wyclef, imo, has really redeemed himself over the last year, at least on the production end of things. His work on the Ying Yang Twinz album was hot, and made Chemically Imbalanced a lot more tolerable than it would've been. His work on his is also significantly hot, and this is the lesser of his two tracks in quality. It's still a hot single, though, and T.I.'s on top of his hook game here. Da Dopeman should've sported a guest spot from Jeezy, but T.I.P. holds it down on his own. I'm sure a bunch of people'll see this as glamourizing the trap, but T.I. shares the ill of the crack game on this track too. Something a lotta trap-rappers fail to these days. Watch What You Say To Me finds T.I. and Jay-Z on the same track. Something that sounded like a dream come true, and while it is definitely dope, it's a little underwhelming, almost in the same way Black Republicans was on Hip-Hop Is Dead(however, Black Republicans > Watch What You Say To Me). The problem is, the chemistry just isn't there with Jigga and the King. Aside from the lacking chemistry, Khao's beat is dope, Pimp C-inspired guitar fare, and both T.I. and Hov drop some tight verses, if nothing ground-breaking. Hurt is the first beat from Danja, also known as Timbaland's Mini-Me. Danja's beat is dope, and the track features P$C's Alfa Mega and the legendary Busta Rhymes. Busta's verse is spectacular, and probably some of the hottest **** he's spit since signing with Aftermath(even though The Big Bang was dope overall). Alfa Mega has a lotta potential, if not as much as Big Kuntry, who is surprisingly absent from the album(although he's on the bonus track, No Sweat). T.I. mercs the first verse, which he also spit on the recent edition of Rapcity.

Act II is up next, and is the T.I. half of the album. After this is possibly the best track on the entire album, Help Is Coming. The beat from Just Blaze sounds like something straight outta Superman, in a good way. It helps that T.I. makes himself out as some sorta superhero on this track, here to save hip-hop. Does hip-hop need saving? No, not really. But, if anyone in the mainstream right now could save the game, it'd be Clifford. Tip mentions declining album sales and bootlegging, and believes he's the answer to the problem. Clearly, he isn't the answer to bootlegging, since this album will be illegally acquired by millions around the net; but, he most likely is the answer to declining album sales, since this is likely to sell more than any hip-hop album that's been release thus far this year, and probably as much as the top three selling albums this year at this point combined. Up next is the second Wyclef collabo, My Swag. Some people may not be feeling this track, but the Miami Vice vibe is definitely dope to me. T.I. raps about traveling around the world, which does bring up one thing; Tip certainly loves rapping about states and foreign cities. One outta every three Tip tracks since Ride Wit Me seem to include at least three cities name-checked, and while I can see that annoying some people, it doesn't really bother me. This is one of my favorite tracks on the album, and T.I.'s flow is killer over this beat. We Do This is produced by The Runners, and the Mi-A-Yo producers provide Tip with a tight beat. This could easily be the next single, as could most, if not all of the tracks on Act II; however, I'd most likely go with this next, especially given the Runners' track record for hit singles. Show It To Me is next, featuring Nelly; I've never been a huge fan of the St. Louis don, but Nelly drops an impressive verse, featuring his signature energetic flow, as he spits seamlessly over the track. T.I. isn't to be outshined though, and he drops two dope verses of his own. After that is the smooth ladies track, this albums Why You Wanna so to speak, in Don't You Wanna Be High. The Runners produced this track as well, and why not as explosive as We Do This, it's still a nice track, and aimed at the right market. After this is the last track on Act II, the highly anticipated Eminem collabo, Touchdown. Unfortunately, there's two things a bit disappointing about this track; Eminem produced it, and Eminem is clearly outshined by T.I.'s second verse. Still, this track does its job well, and even though Em sounds rather tired, he's still up on the metaphore game.

Act III is short, with only three tracks, but all three are consistently dope. T.I. and T.I.P.'s confrontation on the prelude to Act III is well-played by Tip, and the track following this, Tell 'Em I Said That, has a phenomenal beat from Danja Handz. T.I., or T.I.P., shines brightly over this beat, while he disses a plethora of unnamed rappers, who could be almost anyone in the industry. Respect This Hustle is a track in which T.I. and T.I.P. have a true confrontation in a song, and while that maybe hard to follow for people who weren't paying the utmost attention to detail in this album, for those with a longer attention-span, this is certainly an album highlight. The hook is tight, and T.I.'s verses are definitely dope. The final track features an elegant beat from Grand Hustle in house producer, Keith Mack; and this is one of the best tracks of T.I.'s career, as he gets very personal on this track. For sure, when T.I. is gone(which hopefully isn't for another 50 years or so), he'll certainly be missed in the hip-hop game.

Overall, T.I. Vs. T.I.P. is an album that is consistently dope from start to finish. No, it's not groundbreaking. No, it's not King, and it's not Trap Muzik. But did you really want that? No. This is T.I. most consistent album to date(no filler whatsoever), and while it may not host a track of What You Know proportions, it is a fine piece of ART. Remember, that's what this album is, and although it may take a handful of listens to really start feeling this album, with enough patience, you'll love it in the end. I tip my hat to Tip for such a strong effort, and look forward to the next one.
T.I. - T.I. vs T.I.P.
Constant | Vancouver, BC Canada | 07/29/2007
(2 out of 5 stars)

"T.I's (A.K.A. Clifford Joseph Harris Jr) fifth album is "T.I. vs T.I.P." (2007). I found this release to be a sub-par effort from T.I. - a lot of the music found throughout the release being repetitive - a definite step down in lyrics and production from his last album. Not impressed by the lead single ""Big Things Poppin' (Do It)" - a track about people who talk big and don't back it up. To me T.I. is a fine example of that an average MC who calls himself "King" and does not back it up. I have no real interest listening to whole album based upon T.I.'s own internal battles. First track I did feel on this release was the Mannie Fresh produced "Da Dopeman" which T.I. laces with a solid chorus. Track's like Danja produced "Hurt" & Just Blaze's "Help Is Coming" will work for those who are looking for something to bang in the whip.The rest of the album is a mess to me one of the worst moment's for me was listening to Eminem trying to rhyme with a whiny flow on "Touch Down". T.I.'s braggy lyrics get beyond tiring, and the production found on this release is generally bland. Enlisting well known artists like Jay-Z, Eminem, Wyclef Jean, Busta Rhymes did not benefit this release, nothing against any of them but felt no one brought anything special to the table. I would rather hear a hungry MC who has something new to say. "T.I. explained the album's title, saying, "It's basically a battle within myself, there's not nobody out there doing what I do as well as I do it, so I see myself as worthy competition for myself". T.I. needs a wake up call, way to much ego, not enough quality music. "T.I. vs T.I.P." is not a release I would recommend for the collection."
Another classic from the self-proclaimed "King of the South"
Viper | Chicago IL | 09/01/2007
(5 out of 5 stars)

"I've been a fan of T.I for a while now and last year I was blown away by his classic "King" album. That CD was one of the best of last year and this album serves to become one of the best of this year. T.I is defintely one of the best rappers from the south and delivers a great album. The south seems to get a lot of hate but T.I is one of the rappers that keeps the scene from falling into the river of wackness. This is destined to be one of the year's best albums."